Episodes

Friday Nov 05, 2021
Episode 03: Journey to Level 1 with Jackie Lawlor
Friday Nov 05, 2021
Friday Nov 05, 2021
For our third episode of Clean@Work, we explore what it takes to become a level, one systemic modelling facilitator.
Sarah will facilitate the session, starting by asking about our journeys and how we got into systemic modelling? And what difference it has made to how we show up?
Finally, for those on the journey, we will share our thoughts and tips on how to get through what must be one of the most challenging certifications in the world.
Facilitated by Sarah Baca
Sarah is a leader, speaker, and writer who believes that the only way we can get work done is through relationships. Passionate about growing cultures where it is safe to mess up (aka innovate), Sarah has been leading teams for over a decade. She believes that holistic and systemic growth can happen for individuals and their organisations when people are attracted to a shared irresistible future.
Email: Sarah@sjbaca.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahndipity03
Not so Special Guest: John Barratt
John is the only agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organisations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that, he trains and mentors other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com.
Email: John@Agileaffinity.com
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/
Twitter: @Coachjohnuk
Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn
Special Guest: Jackie Lawlor
Jackie Lawlor is a highly experienced ILM Level 7 Executive Coach and Mentor and Facilitator, specialising in Clean Language and Systemic Modelling.
Jackie currently incorporates Clean Language into all her training and coaching which is cross-sector, and is most proud of training the entire professional development team and
specialist nurses in Organ Donation at NHS Blood and Transplant in Clean Language, so that they are even more flexible, respectful and responsive when having very sensitive conversations about organ donations. Clean language is now embedded into training at NHS BT from induction to medical simulations, and it has made a real difference to the confidence of the nurses who use it.
Jackie came to Clean Language in approx. 2013, as part of an NLP course, when doing a modelling project? Jackie initially thought the questions were ridiculous! It was only when using the questions to model exemplars for her desired outcome that she realized the difference the questions were making. She was able to model the front of mind-stuff and also the out of awareness information the exemplar didn’t know about what they did.
Jackie was hooked! Learning initially with Judy Rees, and as a passionate experiential and action learner who loves fast feedback loops, she practised intensely with peer learners clocking up 100 Clean Language coaching hours within a few months of starting the learning. As Jackie got more experienced, she began teaching Clean Language as a stand-alone subject or as part of coaching and other courses and presenting workshops at conferences for Health Education England in the West Midlands, Later, West Midlands Leadership Academy.
On her journey, Jackie has learned from many key masters in this field, some of whom worked directly with David Grove, (the source of this wonderful methodology), Caitlin Walker, Marian Way, James Lawley and Penny Tomkins. She is a regular contributor at Metaphorum, and in the Systemic Modelling community, both of which celebrate all things Clean.
Well known now in the Clean Community as a great collaborator, supporter and advocate of Clean Language, Jackie is Accredited to Level 1 ( broadly equivalent to ILM Level 7), in Caitlin Walkers Systemic Modelling (Clean For Teams) which is driven by Clean Language. and has additionally spent five days learning Clean Space. Jackie incorporates Clean Language into her whole life.

Friday Nov 05, 2021
Episode 02: What is Systemic Modelling
Friday Nov 05, 2021
Friday Nov 05, 2021
For our second episode of Clean @ Work, we are moving on to what is systemic modelling?
We cover topics such as:
- What is the difference between facilitating and systemic (Team) coaching?
- The difference between ORSC and Systemic Modelling
- The history of Clean Language and Systemic Modelling
- The essence of systemic modelling
- How we use systemic modelling in an agile context
Facilitated by John Barratt and Sarah Baca
John is the only agile coach to achieve the much more challenging than it sounds Systemic Modelling Level 1 certification. He spends his time using systemic modelling to help organizations be outcome-focused in the change they are looking for whilst supporting them to be resilient and people-centric. When he is not doing that he is training and mentoring other agile coaches to be the best they can be through his company www.agileaffinity.com.
Email: John@Agileaffinity.com
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarratt1/
Twitter: @Coachjohnuk
Blog: https://medium.com/@CoachJohn
Sarah is a leader, speaker, and writer who believes that the only way we can get work done is through relationships. Passionate about growing cultures where it is safe to mess up (aka innovate), Sarah has been leading teams for over a decade. She believes that holistic and systemic growth can happen for individuals and their organizations when people are attracted to a shared irresistible future.
Email: Sarah@sjbaca.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahjbaca/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahndipity03

Thursday Nov 04, 2021
Episode 01: What Difference Has Systemic Modelling Made to You?
Thursday Nov 04, 2021
Thursday Nov 04, 2021
For our first episode of Clean @ Work, we are starting with WHY. Why do we love systemic modelling so much? We ask our guests, who are Agile Coaches using systemic modelling around the world, "What difference has systemic modelling made for you?"
John Barratt facilitates this episode with our guests: Johan Nordin, Pascal Clarke, Pascal Clarke, Mark Sheffield, and Jolene Jangles. Sarah Baca is the supporting host and video editor.
GUEST BIOS:
JOHAN NORDIN is amazed by the power of shared understanding, curiosity and respect. He creates conditions for meaningful conversations, collaboration and business agility using visualisation of minds through Systemic modelling, workflow through Kanban boards and landscapes through Wardley Maps. He is a father, husband and owner of a lovely farm in the middle of Sweden and a company called Simplify Change.
You can contact Johan on Twitter at https://twitter.com/johannordin and on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanhnordin/
PASCAL CLARKSON has been working with the Scrum framework since 2012. With a background in Software Engineering and personal development, he has developed himself into a Systemic Change Facilitator, aiming to help individuals, teams and organisations to find their own way of adopting an Agile mindset. By making use of Clean Language, Systemic Modelling and other tools, he picked up along the way, he facilitates the discovery of what is needed by the system. For more information you can find him on LinkedIn at http://linkedin.com/in/pascalclarkson
MARK SHEFFIELD is an Agile coach, Scrum Trainer, and co-author of Inviting Leadership: Invitation-Based Change™ in the New World of Work. He began learning Clean Language and Systemic Modelling from Caitlin Walker in 2018. His coaching clients learn to express themselves, gain richer understanding of each other, and become higher performing as he guides them through experiencing and exploring Clean Language and Systemic Modelling. You can contact Mark at https://www.linkedin.com/in/markbsheffield
JOLENE JANGLES is a lean/agile practitioner and Co-Active coach who works with individuals, teams, and organisations to reach higher levels. Using the right balance of teaching, mentoring and coaching she shares her passion, hoping to ignite the greatness she sees in others. You can contact Jolene at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolene-jangles